Subject: RE: Lotusphere 2005
“Either that or IBM wants you to get used to the dB2 and websphere like funtionality.”
This is like saying, because HTTP and SMTP services were included natively in Domino 4.5, that IBM wanted you to get used to open protocols because they were migrating you away from Notes. Boy, that’s exactly how it worked, wasn’t it?
“As you state, there is a convergence, and Domino doesnt seem to be winning the fight.”
How is convergence a fight? This sounds like a bachelor’s idea of marriage.
“We need to be able to see past our shoes and not be so short sighted.”
Argument by intimidation. I must be wrong, because I don’t want to seem “short-sighted.”
“So Millions of end-users of the Lotus Notes client will have to start getting used to the Workplace Rich Client. The majority of the Workplace Rich client has a portal feel.”
Ummm… have you observed the evolution of the client product for the last decade? Have you used the 6.5 Workspace model on the client? Have you deployed a Notes homepage in your organization? That move has been happening for, what, at least 6 years? And it’s a good move, away from isolation of information and towards intelligence, role-based delivery.
"To quote some IBMers at a BOF, “Soon you won’t need to have the Notes client on your desktop to have the look and feel IN THE WORKPLACE RICH CLIENT” that would mean to anyone that was listening, the “Notes client”
as we know it today will dissapear and be replaced by the Workplace rich client."
No, what that means is the Notes client IS the Workplace Rich Client. Ken Bisconti has stated this quite clearly. There’s the browser client model, the Eclipse client model, and the Notes client model, all connecting to Workplace services, which can come from Domino or Websphere or some other place.
The worm is the spice. The spice is the worm.
“However, Do you have any idea how much retraining alone will be involved. I think it’s great to be visionary, but being practical is just as important.”
None unless you’re still operating your Notes environment like it’s 1995.
“Eventually, we will have to deal with Domino, being just a component of Websphere.”
No, we’ll deal with Domino being a component of Workplace. Websphere is another component.
You see, Workplace is an over-arching software strategy that transcends what we formerly knew as individual products. Why is that difficult to understand? What do you think, say, .NET is? Or Java?
“However, the NSF will allways be supported by Websphere via a portlet or some future integration points. Thats why IBM said to keep programing in Notes.”
Actually, what they said was: we will not abandon your investment in Notes, whether that’s yesterday’s investment or tomorrow’s.
“Lets not lose sight of the long term and get lost in the vision.”
How do I get lost in a vision that I’ve lost sight of?
“Enterprise clients that are looking to spend millions want to know where this is going in a few years and where to spend their money. We cant afford to be short sighted and take IBMs word at face value.”
LMAO. Now I get it. You’re trying to convince everyone that you’re smarter than they are because you see through your vendor’s lies. I bet you used to watch CBS News.
“I am getting myself retrained on all Websphere and workplace products out of neccessity. I wouldnt want to be left in the dust.”
Good for you. Rather than spend my time chasing those products, I’ll keep an eye on the evolution that’s causing them to come to me. And in the meantime, I’ll be doing stuff like this: www.openntf.org/nathan/escape.nsf/d6plinks/NTFN-698B3H