Yahoo mail beta messages in 'Roman' font

My users started reporting a couple of weeks ago that they were receiving emails in an “ugly” typeface that was hard to read. It was sporadic, with the vast majority of messages being fine.

I finally tracked down the issue to emails being sent to us using the Yahoo Mail Beta test. The default font used in the Yahoo beta mail composition screen says it it Times New Roman, 12pt. But Domino or the Client is translating that into the Windows “Roman” font, which is not a TrueType font, and it is “ugly”, as my users claim.

Anyone know what would cause this? I’ve dug around in the MIME conversion settings in Domino and the client to try to fix it, but nothing so far has worked. I’ve tried mapping “Roman” to “Times New Roman” in the MIME settings, but that didn’t do anything either.

I’ve looked at the raw “source” for the emails in questions, and this is what shows:

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Received: from web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.106.67])

      by xxxx.xxxxx.com (Lotus Domino Release 7.0.2)

      with SMTP id 2006102509494983-2904 ;

      Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:49:49 -0700 

Received: (qmail 10301 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Oct 2006 16:49:49 -0000

DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;

s=s1024; d=yahoo.com;

h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type;

b=P5e+JKLiQwR2UJidU8MK2LaYalVQLXk4dXNAf+ehWAgcwNBfDHlV6PIZ/jlvM1P0/0+QmDBhuqY4caBdn5ntdvyO4gXMtUet6S/iKv5DUrZ4siUZIRsPzrn6yx3vSWSCwNCpmu5BwZQWNmk7yXKVYbEI9rVP7R6eF7LI/a4+u0c= ;

Message-ID: 20061025164949.10299.qmail@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com

Received: from [xx.xx.xxx.xx] by web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:49:49 PDT

Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:49:49 -0700 (PDT)

From: Mike Gotts xxxxxx@yahoo.com

Subject: test again

To: xxxxx@xxxx.com

MIME-Version: 1.0

X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on xxxxx/xxxxx(Release 7.0.2|September 26, 2006) at

10/25/2006 09:49:50 AM,

	 Serialize by Notes Client on Mike Gotts/xxxxx(Release 7.0.2|September

26, 2006) at 10/25/2006 10:04:43 AM,

	 Serialize complete at 10/25/2006 10:04:43 AM

Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=“0-1562406434-1161794989=:10293”

–0-1562406434-1161794989=:10293

Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii

Is this still being converted into “Roman” font on our systems?=0A=0A

–0-1562406434-1161794989=:10293

Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Content-Type: text/html; charset=ascii

</he=

ad><div style=3D"font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;=

font-size:12pt">

Is this still being converted into “Roman” font on our=

systems?


–0-1562406434-1161794989=:10293–

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I assume the issue is in the “<div style=3D"font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt”>" line of the email, but I don’t know enough to diagnose why this translates into the non-TrueType font “Roman” when displayed.

We’re on Domino/Notes 7.0.2 running on fully patched W2k and XP machines. The issue happens on both OSs on every machine I’ve tried.

Is anyone else seeing this? I moved my Yahoo Mail account over to the Beta and can reproduce the issue it at will.

– Mike

Subject: Yahoo mail beta messages in ‘Roman’ font

A general knowledge of CSS would be handy here – any multi-word values MUST be quoted in order to be valid.

WRONG-> font-family:times new roman, …

RIGHT-> font-family:“times new roman”, …

Subject: SOLUTION: Delete Roman font

Yes, this reply is years later, and yet this issue still crops up for many people.

I got tired of this, so I just went into my font folder of Windows XP and deleted the Roman font entirely.

Problem solved, emails look great again…

Subject: Mail messages in ‘Roman’ font

An update to my own posting:

it appears that the issue is not, as I first diagnosed it, limited to Yahoo Mail Beta. Recent tests from Gmail and Hotmail show that if an email is composed with either of those systems using “Times New Roman” font, then they also appear on our recipient Notes Client systems with the non-TrueType “Roman” font.

Mail sent using Mozilla Thunderbird formatted in Times New Roman appear fine when received and viewed by our Notes Clients.

Also, DWA is NOT affected, and the emails appear just as they were composed by the sender, with Times New Roman font.

Anyone know what Notes/Domino setting might be affecting this? Again, we’re on 7.0.2 for server and client, mix of W2K and XP for the OS. Affects only the client running on either OS.

Thanks,

Mike

Subject: RE: Mail messages in ‘Roman’ font

Did this ever get resolved? It’s been driving me batty.

Subject: RE: Mail messages in ‘Roman’ font

Anyone have any luck with this? These email are ugly and hard to read.

TIA

Subject: RE: Mail messages in ‘Roman’ font

Thanks to Mike for diagnosing this problem. My first instinct was to complain to the senders, but it would seem a bug fix is in order for this annoying problem. My only workaround at the moment is to double click the message and reset the fonts manually and save. Not a very tidy approach.

Can some Lotus folks chime in here…pleeeease!!

Gary