XP Tablet SP2 crashing Notes

Hello,

I’m just curious if anyone else has this combo and is experiencing problems!?

I have one tablet PC running Windows XP Tablet Edition. After installing XP SP2, Notes began crashing and shutting down on a regular basis. Uninstall SP2, and the crashing stops. Reinstall SP2, and the crashing starts again.

Notes seems to work fine on ‘regular’ Windows XP, so I suspect it’s something in the tablet edition.

Any stories would be appreciated!

Dan

Subject: XP Tablet SP2 crashing Notes

Curious. Could you send me the NSD file from the crash.

Thanks.

Jeff Eisen

Lotus Notes Lead Architect

Lotus Software, IBM Software Group

jeisen@us.ibm.com

Subject: RE: XP Tablet SP2 crashing Notes

I’m having the same problem RIGHT AFTER I installed XP SP2 on my Toshiba Tablet. Crashes several times a day.

Subject: XP Tablet SP2 crashing Notes

I have installed 6.5.3, deleted perweb.nsf, and deleted headline.nsf and the problem continues. Another person in my company is having the same problems on a Motion M1300 tablet.

Subject: RE: XP Tablet SP2 crashing Notes

I am experiencing the same problems. I am running TabletPC 2005 (XP SP2) on a Toshiba M200 and Notes 6.5.2. I have attempted a reinstall of Notes - with no success. Has anyone found a working solution or workaround?

Subject: RE: XP Tablet SP2 crashing Notes

Same here.

Toshiba M200

Notes/Designer/Admin 6.5.2

Domino 6.5.2

While developing, a crash every 30 minutes, in different situations. Annoying.

Subject: RE: XP Tablet SP2 crashing Notes

I am experiencing the same thing with a Toshiba Portege 3500 Tablet running Notes 6.0.4.

When developing I crash about 10 times a day or more.

Subject: XP Tablet SP2 crashing Notes

I have a Gateway M275 tablet that was purchased in late Apr 2004. I live in Notes most of the day. The machine crashed maybe once a week or less with constant use. After installing SP2, it crashes about 4 times a day if I am careful. I am usually in mail and have accessed a web page when it crashes. I used to be able to run Zapnotes and restart. Lately Zapnotes will not run through the task list and will not go away when I quit. Often I have to restart the machine for Notes to run at normal speeds. – Very, very frustrating – Definite decrease in productivity – But safer because the computer is in the restart process so often.

Subject: Jeff, any news?

Jeff, any news? I am very interested in this argument… thank you

Subject: XP Tablet SP2 crashing Notes

Any news? I have the same problem with an ACER TRAVELMATE C110. (SP2).

Until today I had installed “Notes 6.0.3”; today I have installed “Notes 6.5.1” but the problem it’s the same.

Thanks. Nicola

Subject: XP Tablet SP2 crashing Notes

I just got a Toshiba M200, immediately installed XP SP2, and overall I’ve been very pleased with the device. After a bit of normal Notes use, I noticed the frequent Notes crashes as reported here. Based on the reports, I uninstalled SP2. Although I’ve only been using Notes for a day now, I haven’t experienced the frequent crashing. If I do experience them, I will re-post here with the frequency.

Per IBM support (see below), Notes doesn’t support Win XP Tablet Edition at all, which is unfortunate, but clearly something changed with SP2/Tablet 2005 that impacts Notes. Has anyone (unofficially) at IBM/Lotus figured out what is causing the crashes?

Link to Lotus Support Document:

http://tinyurl.com/5dnub

Thank you.

Michael

Subject: RE: XP Tablet SP2 crashing Notes

To answer my own question, and to let others know, I’ve used the following information to solve the Notes crashing issue after SP2 is applied (It’s long):

We have received lately a barrage of reports that Notes 6.x crashes

seemingly randomly on the Tablet PC when XP Service Pack 2 is installed.

(Not sure if R5 does too).

First, let me give the standard disclaimer – Notes is not currently

supported on the Tablet PC. It is being explored, but as of now, it is NOT

supported. That being said, we would like to get people through the

troubles they are having on the Tablet PC if possible.

Working with Microsoft, we have come up with a suggestion to avoid the

crash. It is not conclusive yet whether this solves the problem, but it

appears promising. Please let me know via responses to this posting

whether it works for you.

The suggestion is to disable “Advanced Text Services” for Notes, part of

the MSAA accessibility functionality in XP. There are two ways to disable

it – one globally for all applications and one for just Notes. A business

partner guinea pig has been successful so far with the “globally” approach

(method 2 below), but you are welcome to try the “just for Notes” approach.

Either way, when you post, please post which method you tried.

Assuming this fixes the problem for you, it is not clear yet whether this

is a Notes bug or a Text Services bug or whatever. We are still looking

for a permanent solution and/or real diagnosis. These suggestions are just

intended to get you through things in the meantime.

Note that if you search for “Advanced Text Services” on the web, you will

find a lot of web sites suggesting you turn it off due to problems with

various applications – make what you want of that tidbit.

I’m not 100% sure of what you lose by disabling Advanced Text Services, but

I think it is something like

  1) Handwriting Recognition



  2) Speech Recognition



  3) Some IME (for entering characters in some Asian languages)

functionality.

For these 3 things, I’m not also sure whether you lose them completely or

just some aspects of them.

Anyway, here’s the instructions (from Microsoft). In Method 1, the

application to disable is presumably NLNOTES.EXE

Method 1:

To turn off CUAS support for your specific program, use any of the

following methods that are appropriate for your situation.

Change The Compatibility Properties of Your Local Program’s Executable

File

To manually change the compatibility properties on an executable file

for a locally installed program, follow these steps:

Tap Start, tap All Programs, tap Accessories, and then tap Windows

Explorer.

Open the location of your program’s executable file.

For example, to turn off CUAS for Notepad (notepad.exe), open

C:\Windows\System32 .

Select the program’s executable file (for example, notepad.exe), and

then on the File menu, tap Properties.

On the Compatibility tab, tap to select the Turn off advanced text

services for this program check box, and then tap OK.

Note The Compatibility tab is only available for programs that are

installed on your hard disk.

-or-

Change The Compatibility Properties of Your Local Program in the Windows

Registry

To set the compatibility properties for a locally-installed program in

the Windows registry, follow these steps:

Tap Start, and then tap Run.

In the Open box, type regedit , and then tap OK.

Depending on how you want to configure the setting, select one of the

following steps:

To configure this setting for all users, locate and then select the

following key in the registry:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion

To configure this setting on a per user basis, locate and then select

the following key in the registry:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion

On the Edit menu, tap New, and then tap Key.

Type AppCompatFlags , and then press ENTER.

Select the AppCompatFlags key.

On the Edit menu, tap New, and then tap Key.

Type Layers , and then press ENTER.

On the Edit menu, tap New, and then tap String Value.

In the Name box, type the path of the program executable file, and the

press ENTER.

For example, type C:\Windows\System32\notepad.exe

On the Edit menu, tap Modify.

In the Value data box, type DisableCicero , and then press ENTER.

-or-

Change The Compatibility Properties of Your Network Program’s Executable

File

If you have compatibility problems with an program that runs from a

network location and is not installed locally on your Tablet PC

computer, follow these steps:

Open My Computer or Windows Explorer.

On the Tools menu, tap Map Network Drive.

In the Drive box, select a drive letter.

In the Folder box, type the UNC path for the server and shared resource

(for example, type a UNC path similar to \ server_name \ share_name ,

or tap Browse to locate the computer and shared resource.

If this is a frequently used program, you may want to tap to select the

Reconnect at logon check box, and then tap Finish.

Tap Start, and then tap Run.

In the Open box, type regedit , and then tap OK.

Depending on how you want to configure the setting, select one of the

following steps:

To configure this setting for all users, locate and then select the

following key in the registry:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion

To configure this setting on a per user basis, locate and then click the

following key in the registry:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion

On the Edit menu, tap New, and then tap Key.

Type AppCompatFlags , and then press ENTER.

Select the AppCompatFlags key.

On the Edit menu, tap New, and then tap Key.

Type Layers , and then press ENTER.

On the Edit menu, tap New, and then tap String Value.

In the Name box, type the path of the mapped network drive you created

in step 4.

For example, type a path similar to drive :\ Folder \ program.exe , and

then press ENTER.

On the Edit menu, tap Modify.

In the Value data box, type DisableCicero , and then press ENTER.

Method 2: Disable CUAS Computer-Wide

If you have several programs that do not work correctly with the Tablet

PC Input Panel because of CUAS compatibility issues, you may want to

turn off support for Advanced Text Services computer-wide to resolve

these compatibility issues.

Warning When you turn off CUAS on your Tablet PC computer, you are

turning off a service that the Tablet PC Input Panel must use to provide

handwriting recognition and speech recognition functionality.

Additionally, you put your Tablet PC into an unintended state. Microsoft

recommends that you use the following method only for testing purposes.

Before you use it, use the other methods described in this article, and

understand the potential compatibility effects it may have on other

handwriting recognition, speech recognition, and East Asian keyboard

input services.

To turn off CUAS computer-wide, follow these steps:

Tap Start, and then tap Control Panel.

In Control Panel, tap Date, Time, Language, and Regional Options, and

then tap Regional and Language Options.

On the Languages tab, tap Details.

On the Advanced tab, tap to clear the Extend support of advanced text

services to all programs check box.

Restart your Tablet PC for the settings to take effect.

Subject: Seems to work

Hi, this seems to work for me:


for a locally installed program, follow these steps: Tap Start, tap All Programs, tap Accessories, and then tap Windows

Explorer. Open the location of your program’s executable file. For example, to turn off CUAS for Notepad (notepad.exe), open

C:\Windows\System32 . Select the program’s executable file (for example, notepad.exe), and

then on the File menu, tap Properties. On the Compatibility tab, tap to select the Turn off advanced text

services for this program check box, and then tap OK. Note The Compatibility tab is only available for programs that are

installed on your hard disk.


I just disabled the property in all client .exe (Designer, admin, notes) just to make sure

I didn’t use the global approach, because disabling tablet functions for all apps on a tablet pc is a bit … well … extreme :slight_smile:

As far as I can tell, I had no crashes since then (besides the usual :-).

Thanks for the hint. The crashes were terrible.

C.

Subject: RE: XP Tablet SP2 crashing Notes

Thanks to Michael for his post. I did the Notes specific fix (Method 1) and I have not crashed since then.

Subject: RE: XP Tablet SP2 crashing Notes

Hi,

thank you for the hint, but I tried both methods on a HP tc1100 with XP sp2 and neither one does work…

Lotus Notes (6.5.3) keeps on crashing.

Any idea ?

Thanx in advance,

Subject: RE: XP Tablet SP2 crashing Notes

There seems to be a fix in 6.5.4.Unfortunately, for something that causes so much grief, it looks as if we’ll have to wait until March to get it!

See:

http://www-10.lotus.com/ldd/r5fixlist.nsf/5c087391999d06e7852569280062619d/0b1a34f36c89db7a85256f5b00528fb8?OpenDocument&Highlight=0,SP2