Is Design Refresh date dependend?

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Hello everyone,

I have a question of understanding regarding the DB Design Refresh:

Our scenario:
We have development, test & demo and production server. The application is developed on the development server and gets a name as mastertemplate MT1. On the test & demo server a file is also created and it points to MT1 from where it should inherit the design. It itself is also a master template MT2 from which the production servers APP receives its design. MT1 -> MT2 -> APP

Now we have the situation that an agent which was written in MT1 in 2020 by developer A got changed by a developer B in MT2 (not MT1) at the end of 2023. This was also transferred to the production server´s APP. But now it turned out, that this change was not really good and it should be set back to the old state. So as we still ha the MT1 untouched, we refreshed MT2´s design with it.

But whenever we now perform a design refresh from MT1 to MT2, the agent in MT2 remains unchanged.

Our question:

Is it possible that the date has a higher relevance than the MT1 template during the design refresh and therefore an older design object from MT1 cannot overwrite a newer one in MT2? Or is there a time limit or... ? Or could it be that the MT1 agent is corrupt or the MT2 one ? No, "prohibit design refresh" was our 1. idea. Its definitely not set ! ;-)

Note:

We always save all self-written applications in NSF files and never in NTF files as its easier to handle them (i.e. subdirs )

Sincerly,
Jochen "Joe" Herrmann

We use Notes/Domino 12.0.1 and above. 32 bit only on 64 bit OS

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Interesting results.

The first point would have definitely to check whether "Prohibit design replace or refresh to modify" is enabled or not.

You have already done that.

I was going through below URL and found below information in it:

What are the differences between Replace Design and Refresh Design?

Additionally:

- If there is a Design element in the database which has a Design element of the same name in the Template, first the sequence times are compared to check the revisions.

In case there is no difference -> skip Design Element.
Given the Sequence time of the Template is different -> update Design Element

Actually, when updating the design element, it checks whether there really are changes to the Design element, for example, by looking in the $AssistVersion field of an agent. In case there is no difference the update is only logged but not done/executed. Whenever you apply changes to an agent using the Notes Client, even changes of the aliases in the Title, the $AssistVersion field is updated.

Not sure if this could be the case but thought to share.

If possible try "Replace Design" and see if that fix the issue.

Regards,

Amit

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That's why I always set DESIGN_AGENT_UPDATE=2 in the server's notes.ini!

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Hello Massimo,

thanks for your reply.

please, do you have by chance a link to a source which could explain what this INI entry is good for ?

I have not found anything yet on the internet about it.
Only found DEBUG_DESIGN_AGENT_UPDATE=1 (0..2)

Kind Regards

Joe

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@Jochen Herrmann ,

Below URL explains about this notes.ini.

Modified agents don't revert to template design after Replace/Refresh Design in ND8