Hi,
We have migrated to Lotus and are about to get outlook users to switch from pop/smtp/imap.
I know about Damo, but some users experienced some problems with it. Microsoft has got some kind of Lotus connector (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=8EBBBA59-5F17-4E52-8980-C4F0DFA92D65&displaylang=en).
Is this better or worse? any one used both of them?
Best Regards,
Mattias Hallström
Blekinge Institute of Technology.
Subject: DAMO 6.5.5 prebeta …
Hi Mattias,
If you’d like to download the DAMO 6.5.5 prebeta (the beta is scheduled for release 9/19) and particiapte in the discussion forum, just make an entry in this discussion thread and we’ll see that you get the info necessary.
Thanks, Mike
Subject: RE: DAMO 6.5.5 prebeta …
Dear Sir,
As my colleague I would also be very interested to test the 6.5.5 beta release. I have been using the 6.5.2. release with great success until now, except for the annoying fact that when I leave Outlook I get a WMS-Idle nwrdaemn.exe application error message. Could you sign me in for the 6.5.5 Beta test?
Best Regards,
Erwin
Subject: RE: DAMO 6.5.5 prebeta …
Hi Michael Rowe,
I would very much like to participate with testing (both for my company and for Lotus). Please send me the necessary information for downloading the beta.
I will start with some Damo testing with some users tomorrow and it would be great to use 6.5.5
Have you got a schedule for the final release?
Best Regards,
Mattias Hallström
Blekinge Institute of Technology
Subject: You should be hearing soon…
Hi Mattias,
You should be getting the DAMO 6.5.5 prebeta information soon from Jan Kenny.
The current schedule is:
DAMO Beta is intended to be available 9/19
DAMO Gold release is in December, 2005.
IN General, DAMO releases are in sync with Notes/Domino releases.
Thanks, Mike
Subject: RE: You should be hearing soon…
Great!Thanks alot!
Subject: Damo or Microsoft “Add-in Notes Connector”
You should definitely work with DAMO. Make sure you’re getting the latest release, as it has some stellar features.
The MS connector is a joke. I’ve tested it before, and it has one of the most amusing “try to make performance slow on purpose” elements I’ve ever seen.
In Domino, names are typically hierarchical in the x.500 format of “CN=Common Name/OU=Org Unit/O=Organization.” Outlook obviously doesn’t know anything about hierarchical naming structures from Domino, so the developers clearly had to take the incoming “From” string and turn it into something that would make sense displayed in Outlook.
Now, any NORMAL programmer would say "okay, I have to parse this string, and take the contents between the “CN=” and the next “/” But not Microsoft. What they do is run a lookup again the user’s Domino mail server, looking for a match in the Domino Directory. Once this is found, they take the SECOND entry in the FullName field, which in a vanilla Domino installation is typically just the Common Name (though it by no means HAS to be.) They don’t even check to see if the From value was ALREADY just a common name.
So instead of a simple parse operation on a string they’ve already received, the programmers decided to initiate a network transaction against the Domino server using the string as a key, then parse out the array result they get from the server. Can you imagine the additional overhead involved? And, of course, this is done every time you read a message, for everyone on the distribution list (because someone CC’ed on the mail has to show just the common name as well!)
It really is a stunning example of performance sabotage.
Subject: RE: Damo or Microsoft “Add-in Notes Connector”
Thanks a lot for the answer and examples. It seems pretty obvious that the MS implementation is not worth using.
The problem is that we have found Damo to be a little bit unstable and unreliable. For example one user didn’t get the mails that arrived to his account when he closed outlook. When he then opened outlook it only found mail from the time he opened outlook. The mail were marked unread on the server, but was not sent to the client.
Might be an older version of Damo…