I installed 8.5.1 the other day and I have to give it mixed reviews.
First, the Eclipse DDE is shakey at best. It’s slow, the typeahead takes too long, so you have to constantly wait on it.
Second, I suppose I will get use to the working sets, but I don’t see that they add any value. Just another layer to navigate and one more thing to slow down development time.
Third, why would you move the Run function? I still can’t find it. How do you run an agent to test it? I can’t think of a reason why removing that would be a good thing. A colleague and myself just spent the last hour searching for the run function and never found it. The only way I could test the agent was to run it from the Actions menu after opening the database in the client.
I was able to get my workspace icons back by closing notes 8.5.1, renaming the Desktop.ndk file and copying the Desktop.ndk file that I used in version 7. When I started 8.5.1 up again, it converted the bookmarks and all my Workspace icons are there now. If I hadn’t been able to do that, I would probably be back on version 7 by now.
I do realize that you have to make things look different to justify people paying for a new version, but why fix things that aren’t broken.
If you want to fix some things that would actually benefit the developers, fix the embedded views so you can add one to your app regardless of your rights at the time you’re adding it.
Or, add a dynamic table capability that can be used in the Client.
Or, give us a set of classes in Lotuscript that will allow you to programatically flush cashes.
Thanks,
MJ
Subject: Some responses
First, the Eclipse DDE is shakey at best.
Would be great if you can give more details on this so we can log it if you are experiencing issues.
the typeahead takes too long
It is using the Eclipse type-ahead which normally detects a pause in the typing before activating type-ahead. You can force type-ahead by hitting CTRL-SPACE to bring up the menu of options for that object.
I suppose I will get use to the working sets, >but I don’t see that they add any value.
Handy if you have a group of applications you want to work on without the background noise. I guess if your coming from a pre-8 designer then the old way may feel more at home.
Working sets are optional though and shouldn’t have any impact if you don’t use them.
Personally I create a working set per customer issue I am working on. So I know which databases can be removed later on.
I still can’t find it. How do you run an
agent to test it?
If the agent is set to run from menu, then you can right click it in the agent list and select run. It is what I normally do.
Subject: in 8.5.2…
you can also run an agent by right clicking on its entry in the navigator and selecting Run.
Working sets have had further enhancements in 8.5.2, and are a great way to organize your work if you use a lot of databases. They may not be helpful for everyone, but we have gotten feedback that they are a more effective way to organize databases than the bookmarks were.
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The agent run is in the design menu, as is test and view log etc.
Working sets are actually OK once you get used to them, and not quite as flaky as the old bookmarks (which I found got corrupted sometimes).
There’s a setting for how long you have to wait for hover help in the preferences of the Eclipse lotusscript editor