Frequent problems with toolbars in the Designer client. For example, when working with a Form, the related “Design Table” toolbar may become grayed out completely when navigating between tables and objects on the form. Even if it was supposed to gray out (depending on where you navigate to), when you move back to a section where it wasn’t grayed previously (for example, a cell in a table), it may flash but remain grayed out. I’ve had to switch the focus to another form and back sometimes to get the proper toolbar to display again in the appropriate area of the form. In some instances, the toolbar disappears altogether, and then re-appears after switching between tabbed objects (form, view, agent, etc.) of the designer client.
Subject: Need more information
I’m not able to reproduce the problems you describe with toolbars when changing selection within the same form. I’m able to switch between the from body (including a section and button), table, and a layout region and toolbar updates correctly. If you can provide more detailed steps about what you’re changing selection to/from, and maybe a test form with objects that show the problem, I’ll test more.
Regards,
Vin
Subject: Problem Examples
For example, I just did the following: 1. I’m in designer with the cursor in the cell of a table on a form.
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Switched to the Notes Client
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Switch back to Designer, and the “Design Table” toolbar (with text/font settings and more) is gray
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Click into the table cell again, and the “Design Table” toolbar flashes, but ends up grayed still
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Went back to the client to edit this exact message
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Back to the Designer, and the “Design Table” toolbar is NOT grayed.
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Clicked immediately above the table on the form (just a space in the body of the form) and the toolbar goes gray again.
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Clicked back into the cell of a table on the form, and the toolbar “flashes” but remains grayed
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Switched back to the Notes Client, and then back to the Designer, and then the toolbar is no longer grayed.
I will attach an swf file example (if you have an swf player) showing the problem in action… you can see that it is inconsistent.
I had moved by toolbars around in the Designer client yesterday, and today they reverted back to how they were before I altered them. I’m not sure if that is expected normal behavior or not.
Subject: Not reproducible
There have been changes in toolbar updating since Beta2. Following your example, when I switch to client and back to Designer, Design Table toolbar is enabled. There is a case where switching between objects within the form will not update after switching to client and causing a toolbar update. But even in this case, the Design Table toolbar was enabled (not gray) when first returning to Designer. I think your particular problem has been addressed.
Toolbars not maintaining their layout after restarting Designer is a know problem that is being worked on.
– Vin
Subject: I don’t believe so. I didn’t ‘restart’ the Designer.
Even without switching back beyond 1 initial time, going back and forth between a table cell and immediately above in the body of the form should not gray the toolbar, yet it is almost always grayed for me, and I have to use CTRL-K or CREATE action to create fields there b/c of the toolbar problem. I don’t know that what you are talking about is being addressed at all from what you’ve told me.
Subject: Maybe I’m misunderstanding something
but in your steps, you said you switched to the client, switched back to Designer, and Design Table toolbar is grayed out. I followed your steps, and can’t reproduce the toolbar graying out. Likewise, switching between form body and table within the form does not disable the toolbar for me - it updates as expected and remains enabled.
I’m running a newer build than Beta2. I can’t reproduce the problems you’re seeing, so it seems to me that the problems you’re describing have been addressed. Please advise if I’m misunderstanding the problem.
– Vin
Subject: Will there be a beta 3?
Well I guess we won’t know until I receive a newer version of the software to test with.
Subject: if you search the forum, you will see the statement there is no more public betas for 8.5