Small Business pricing concerns

I was reading an old thread and wondered if there has been any resolution to their concerns.I do IT outsourcing and one client is excited about going to Domino but wants me to clarify some pricing issues.

They want to do a dual processor Linux server.

But what money they are going to save on a Win2k server license will be sucked up by the 2 (cpu) x 2308 pricetag?

There was a concern that with the per CPU pricing models that IBM/LOTUS was taking advantage of organization saving money. Great, I save money from moving away from Exchange and Outlook only to hand the cash over to IBM/Lotus.

I even considered buying servers from IBM (before they used to throw in a Domino license which was a big plus) but with these multi-cpu pricing schemes in place, we simply can’t afford it.

Has anyone addressed how this can put a pinch on a customer??

May tomorrow be more productive than today,

Frank Bradshaw

Ho’ike Technologies

New York, NY 10012

frank.bradshaw@hoiketech.com

http://www.hoiketech.com

Subject: a few things…

  1. Remember, it is not $2,308 per CPU, per year. That is the first year charge, but that amount drops to less that $700 the following years.

  2. Look into the new Starter Pack Offerings. For example, the Starter Pack for iNotes for Messaging is $999 and gives you 10 iNotes for Messaging CALs and 1 CPU of Messaging server. Your local Business Partner or Reseller can give you more details.

  3. Look at the SMB annoucments we just made today about Domino Express Offerings. It’s the lead story on www.lotus.com. Here is the direct link: http://www-3.ibm.com/software/swnews/swnews.nsf/n/jmae5jqtp9?OpenDocument&Site=lotus

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Alan - Lotus

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Subject: Small Business pricing concerns

Frank,unless you are going to be running http on this box, i wouldn’t bother with a dual cpu system. I’ve setup a few clients now that are single cpu’d linux systems that support around 150-200 users without hitting anything above 50% usage.

These were all PIII 500’s, or 600’s.

Subject: RE: Small Business pricing concerns

Well with the fact that I can get a 2GHz processor machine for about $1K-1.5K with RAID and drives, I think you might be right, a single processor machine dedicated (keep the cpu threads down to a minimum) for Domino for 50-100 users should be ample.I was just concerned with the pricing schemes squeezing out SMBs.

Subject: and does my post alleviate your concerns?

Subject: RE: and does my post alleviate your concerns?

In a sense yes.I guess for the money I can do a few things:

tell the client they can go with a server with multiple CPUs and go with the Express

go with a single CPU server dedicated to Domino, and let them use the multi-CPU machines for other things. This would keep it simple and lower the headaches

I will do some investigating on what the Express packages bring to the table.

I’m sort of missing the Small Business Suite for Linux

(any plans for an upgrade to that program, I won a few converts over to Linux on that one)

Frank Bradshaw