I got a wierd problem. I created a public group called WOMEN_ATTY which was comprised of subgroups (PIT_WOMEN_ATTY, BOS_WOMEN_ATT, DC_WOMEN_ATT). The emails was addressed to WOMEN_ATTY and sent. A undeliverable was sent back for BOS_WOMEN_ATT (was a mis-spelling of group name), emails were sent to everyone in PIT_WOMEN_ATTY but nothing was sent for DC_WOMEN_ATT - it was a misspelling in the group and should be been DC_WOMEN_ATTY. No undeliverable emails. Also no emails to the DC_WOMEN_ATTY. In looking at the private address book - the person had a group called DC_WOMEN_ATT with people in it. But it never used that private group. An no undeliverable came up.
Does anyone have any ideas what happened ? Her location document says Local then server, exhaustively check all address books
thanks in advance
Subject: Private Groups and Public Groups - Weird problem
“In looking at the private address book - the person had a group called DC_WOMEN_ATT with people in it. But it never used that private group.”
The local group would have been found first and that’s the group definition that would have been used. You may assume that because the parent group is defined in the public address book, that would cause the constituent groups named within it to automatically be the ones defined in that same address book, but that’s not the way it happens. The sending client resolves all groups at send time, and the local address book is always searched first. (I don’t think that the option to resolve addresses by looking at server address books first is available until R8 – but maybe it’s sooner; I could have that wrong.)
Delete the private group and try it again.
Subject: RE: Private Groups and Public Groups - Weird problem
“I don’t think that the option to resolve addresses by looking at server address books first is available until R8 – but maybe it’s sooner; I could have that wrong.”
I’m pretty sure, that this has been described in detail (in error) as a new feature in 7.0.2 on dominoblog.com. However, I cannot find that post in the archives anymore. Obviously, that did not happen, so it’s probably been delayed to 8, indeed.
Subject: Private Groups and Public Groups - Weird problem
Hi,Group Mail works as below.
By default, all users can send mail to groups defined in the Domino Directory. We can edit the reader fields for a Group document to restrict access to the group, specifying the users who are allowed to send mail to the group. Only users to whom you grant reader access can send mail addressed to the group. Users who do not have access to the group can see the group name listed in the Domino Directory and choose the name in the Select Addresses dialog box, but the Router rejects the message if they attempt to send a message to the group. Please see the below 3 scenario
1.User whose location document specifies server-based mail who types in the name of a group to which they do not have read access will therefore fail to resolve an address lookup. For them, this group does not exist.
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A user whose location document specifies local-based mail (and who has not created a local group with the same name) will be able to type the group name into an email message and save it to their local mail.box, and at the next replication it will go up to the server’s maiil.box – but when the router resolves the address, the message will be returned to the sender because they are not authorized to send mail to that group.
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When the user creates a local group of the same name (or of some other name) and populates it with user names, then at send time their client will resolve the group to the individual user names, and so the user is not sending the mail to the public NAB’s group, but instead to the individual users, so the security restriction set on the group document on server does not apply.