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I have found some information on the internet. really appreciates if anyone can share their favourite links?
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Rien
Subject: lotus notes better than MS Exchange?
I found this detailed info really helpful:http://www.qchi.net/public/qchi_net.nsf/webpages/Is_Notes_better_than_Exchange
Subject: lol thats a good one.
Subject: lotus notes better than MS Exchange?
Try doing some research from respectable resources, like Gartner, etc. Don’t look at anything from IBM or Microsoft . There’s a ton of things to consider, from both a business, IT and user perspective. Some of it is subjective…for example, many people hate the Notes GUI, while others who’ve worked with it for years are 100% acclimated. You will need to review TCO, ROI, end user reviews, IT operations reviews, market penetration, etc. There’s no 1 answer as to which one is “better” than the other. Both have strengths and weaknesses. If a company uses MS products for applications, active directory for authentication, Office for all desktop tools, etc., then an Exchange email system would seem logical. If it’s a mixed environment, then perhaps not. It’s really a business issue more than if one is better than the other. Try to ignore anyone that leans to the extremes on either side. Try to stay objective and technology agnostic. Just my opinion ![]()
Subject: what’s are the goals, objectives and expectations?
The goals, objectives and expectations are set by someone. How you define them determines the clear choice.
For example, if the goal is to purchase an e-mail system running on Windows, then perhaps Exchange is best. If the goal is to purchase a platform to do much more than e-mail, such as solving a multitude of business problems, then Notes becomes the clear choice.
Again, define the goals, objectives and expectations and you’ll save yourself a lot of time. Oh, list the bias’ as well (e.g., decider likes Outlook).
This approach will save you a lot of time and help you meet the approver’s needs.
Subject: RE: what’s are the goals, objectives and expectations?
Thanks Wayne, but not quite understand your last point, “decider likes outlook?” I have a notes based application, my priority is to consolidate input from around the world, including some from very undeveloped country, different time zone, user wants flexibility to continue work in mobile, some time without connetion to internet, they want flexibility of attached documents, they want flexibility to customized some of the input template to local requirements. They want a system that do not require hard programming. They want a database that is easy to understand, that can expand but not get corrupted easily.They want something that can interface to excel, powerpoint, outlook, crystal reporting/ SAP easily. Also, ease of deployment and setup, and a local replica copy that can replicate to server once connnected to network.
my research so far don’t find such features available in SAP and Exchange. so, why is my IT department still proposing exchange? or my regional lotus representative did not sell their feature well?
Subject: Based on your requirements ND is the clear choice.
Who is “they”? You say “they” want these capabilities. Notes/Domino gives those capabilities. So you have your answer. So why are you winning your argument?
My guess is your IT group makes the decision and they want Exchange. Find out why they want Exchange and how it will help meet your firms needs. If they don’t have compelling reasons for choosing Exchange then you can’t fight them with logic.
You may want to convince your internal business leaders Notes/Domino is the right choice.
Subject: RE: Based on your requirements ND is the clear choice.
“They” is my end user. They are adonment to go to Exchange. Just that they are not able to answer me how can it provide these users’ requirement. I am worry we end up with less capable and costlier solution. I know notes can do all these without much efforts.
ps: I can’t find good resources from Gartner, the links are slow, and is chargeable right?
tq.
Subject: RE: Based on your requirements ND is the clear choice.
Seriously speaking - this year choosing Microsoft Exchange/Outlook is costlier than last year as Outlook is no longer free with the Exchange CAL.
Further, Notes 8 looks remarkably ahead of Microsoft’s game, regards Knowledge Management and Collaboration features out of the box.
I would strongly recommend you go back to your IBM/Lotus Sales people and emphasise there is an opportunity to “sell” Notes 7 toward Notes 8. If they have any talent at all they should be able to present a compelling case.
In my experience those organisations who choose Exchange tyically do so because a) they only need Mail, To Do and Calendaring; b) their IT dept has no Notes skills and want to improve their MS skills; c) a key Director REALLY likes Outlook and REALLY doesn’t like Notes.
These days (Ie. 2007) Notes 7 and Notes 8 are presenting a much more compelling case to stick with/choose Notes.
Plus don’t forget with DAMO users can opt to use Outlook instead of Notes; or DWA.
Just my two pence.
G
Subject: you have notes already
do a proof of concept. build a prototype of what they want and pilot it. if you can’t meet their needs then THEY can recommend another solution. Either you lead the end-users or you follow. A Gartner report isn’t going to change anyone’s mind. Good luck.
Subject: RE: what’s are the goals, objectives and expectations?
Ask your IT department to explain how Exchange can meet that requirement, and what they think it would cost in terms of licensing etc.
And if, as I suspect, you get the run-around, tell them that you will be back in three hours with your Notes prototype, and that you would like to see their Exchange-based prototype at that time, and that if they don’t have one you will take that as their final answer.
That is what I would do.