Installing 6.0.1 Incremental Updater - HOW?

I have 3 domino servers running as partioned domino servers. I ran the updater and only upgraded on domino server even though each server running now says 6.0.1. HOWEVER, the partion that was installed did a full update when the consol was started. The other servers did ask to update design of databases however didn’t update as much as the server that was installed correctly.

I tried to run the updater again but said the latest version is installed. I thought about taking the R6 cd and installing domino fresh on one of the 3, run installer and then repeat for the other 2. THOUGHT I should check with others feedback.

Thank you.

Bob Carlson3

Subject: Installing 6.0.1 Incremental Updater - HOW?

Read this fragment, direct from the Administration Help database entry describing Partitioned Servers…

On a Domino partitioned server, all partitions share the same Domino program directory, and thus share one set of Domino executable files. However, each partition has its own Domino data directory and NOTES.INI file; thus each has its own copy of the Domino Directory and other administrative databases.

So the initial installation of the upgrade was applied to the shared executable files (which is why all of your servers are now upgraded) and each of the following server startups applied the template upgrades to their Domino Directory et al (which is why they didn’t seem to do as much - the rest was already done.)

If you re-install 6.0 on any of the servers, you will revert them all back to 6.0, for the same reasons as above. You cannot have partitioned servers on different levels, since they are all essentially running from the same physical files - they’re just loaded into memory multiple times.

Doesn’t anybody know how to read Help files anymore?

Stephen Lister

Subject: Doesn’t anybody know how to read Help files anymore?

My excuses…

Reading Help Files justs takes too much of the challenge out of administering Domino?

It is still early morning (no help file reading until the start of normal working hours).

It is Saturday. (no help file reading on the weekend).

A combination of Upgrade fever and the fact that usually Lotus incrementals are so good that I can’t hurt my system by merely running them.

cheers…jack

Subject: RE: Doesn’t anybody know how to read Help files anymore?

It’s 10:30pm on a Saturday evening here. I’m at home, watching the cricket on TV, and I’m looking up a Help file for someone else who obviously can’t be bothered. It’s outside working hours, on the weekend here too, and I can do it - and it’s not even my problem!

Sorry Jack - the comment wasn’t directed at you. I just get tired of those people out there who can’t be bothered doing anything at all to help themselves and just expect all of us to solve their problems for them. It took me more time to type up my original answer than it did for me to look it up. If the original poster had taken the time to even look, then he’d have had an answer all that much quicker, and he’d have learned something to boot.

Stephen Lister

Subject: RE: Installing 6.0.1 Incremental Updater - HOW?

Subject: RE: Installing 6.0.1 Incremental Updater - HOW?

Too late - I got to read it before you deleted it :slight_smile:

B1tch slap indeed :slight_smile:

Stephen Lister

Subject: Installing 6.0.1 Incremental Updater - HOW?

There are two prior messages on this forum which may relate to your question…I just can’t remember where.

One was a warning from a user who had two installations on a single machine, ran the “Incremental” and had it update the DBs on both installs but then change only the first ini it found but then direct that ini to point to the “other” notes installation.

The other was a message from the Lotus Updater Team Lead who explained that at least in the case of the client that the update code was actually more of a full install requiring a particular previously installed version than the old style incrementals which merely replaced a small portion of the previously installed code. In fact he claimed they were considering removing the word “incremental” from the titles.

cheers…jack

Subject: RE: Installing 6.0.1 Incremental Updater - HOW?

I wrote the first message referred to and it related only to the client upgrade, not a server upgrade.

Stephen Lister

Subject: Installing 6.0.1 Incremental Updater - like this

as far as i know, incremental installers have never worked properly on partitioned servers, they usually just incremental the program directory and the last partition, they do nothing to the other partitions (which under domino6 now include some executable files and dlls)

don’t do the full install off the cd again as you were going to as it will just put it all back to 6.0, do one of the below

wait for a full install package and just install over the top (this is the easiest)

or

make a copy of the notes program directory and all subdirectories (except data ones), incremental a partition, restore the program directories, incremental the next partition and so on and so on

i just upgraded my 5 partition domino 6 server and you still have to do the same thing as domino 5, the incremental installer still doesn’t work on a partitioned server properly

ps. don’t forget to copy nevent.,exe from the notes directory to each partitions data directory (it looks like that’s the only file to have changed in there)

pss. steven - from your responses you’ve never incrementalled a partitioned server in your life or you would have known that it does not work (never has) - so lose the attitude, it’s not necessary

Subject: RE: Installing 6.0.1 Incremental Updater - like this

Hi everybody,

I just can confirm what Raymond Neeves said. Incremental Updater have never worked with partitioned server and still do not work under R6. They just update 1 partition. The method Raymond explained is the only one working, or what I did is to have always one unused partition, which I updated, and then copy the ntf’s to the other partitions. But under R6 there are executables and dll’s , which you also have to copy.

Is there anybody from IBM/Lotus reading this???

When do you fix this bug, which now already existing for more than 2 years or longer. Are you sleeping again???

Regards,

Roland

Subject: RE: Installing 6.0.1 Incremental Updater - like this

Heyho!

I just had a class with R6 Admin update and we fully ran into this.

What I did as a workaround was:

xcopy part1*.ntf part2 /s

xcopy part1*.exe part2 /s

xcopy part1*.jar part2 /s

xcopy part1*.xml part2 /s


and it seemed to work, as the second partition also updated the design of the domino directory. I hope I did not forget something essential, but at least it seemed to work.

regards Bernhard