I worked with Lotus Notes for a long time. Then in the new millenium, when the doom and gloom regarding Lotus Notes started propogating, I “got myself out” and moved to a company using ASP etc. Recently, we’ve started doing the new projects in Java (I hired a long time Java delveloper) for all the politically correct reasons, modern platform, open source blah blah.
To cut the story short, Java development is soooo slow. Its taking AGES to develop application in Java compared to ASP/VB, things are taking months which I could have cranked out in Notes in a long weekend. This just doesn’t make commercial sense for a SME’s.
Is there an alternative for RAD at Lotus Notes $$? Am I mad for contemplating moving to Lotus Notes in 2004??? Sure I’ve heard of Rational Rose etc etc, but the ticket prices of this software in Australian $$$ is way more than my budget.
Regards,
Daniel.
Subject: Not Mad - Lucky!
You’re a lcky so-and-so to have the choice to come back to the best RAD platform aroundWhat with IBMs continual failure to market Notes/Domino, micro$oft’s unending barrage of FUD (funny, that used to IBM’s speciality…) and the constant litanies of “Notes, what’s that?” and “But it’s not micro$oft” Iget so exasperated.
For many many tasks, especially RAD, secure internet sites and disordered, unkeyed data, NOTES CANNOT BE BEATEN!
I’m so glad you’re able to come back to the fold - now how do we get other people to realise they should be doing the same?
Subject: Coming back to Lotus Notes… Mad ???
This is very difficult to respond to your request, as no information about your applications nature are given.
If you’re building applications only for the web, using Microsoft ASP with Visual Studio .Net is not a bad idea - and the cool thing is that you can reuse your code in COM objects when your needs grow.
There’s also few RAD for PHP…
But for all that Web server scripting technology, no matter if you use a RAD or not, the developpement times are really little, espescially with PHP and all its libraries (generating PDF, …)
So maybe you should explain your enterprise context in order to get more accurate responses ?
Subject: Leaving Lotus Notes in the first place - mad!
I think you were mad to leave it in the first place! As you’ve now conceded, there is no better platform for developing real-world business applications in super-quick time.
Yes, there are situations where it doesn’t fit, like for a small project in a company that doesn’t use Notes, for example, but in an organisation that already uses it, there isn’t anything better. And nowadays, it does web, xml, Java, & just about anything else you could need.
I know I’m biased, having decided to stick with Lotus Notes & see what happened, but hey, I think what’s happened is good.
Anyone agree/disagree?
Subject: Coming back to Lotus Notes… Mad ???
If you are contemplating moving back to Notes and you have less than 1,000 users, look at Domino Express pricing. very, very attractive and a steal!