Archiving in Notes - HATE IT! HATE IT! HATE IT!

Why,Why,Why would Lotus re-design archiving functionality when they can’t even fix the existing problems with previous versions???Archiving in Notes is the WORST ever! The archive settings aren’t end user friendly at all(how do you explain archive criteria to an end user?), client-based archiving isn’t work for me(Lotus keeps switching me to a different tech because they’re all clueless when it comes to archiving), response documents still get archived, error messages make no sense, and I could go on. They fix one thing and end up breaking a tons more!

Sorry had to vent…but for the love of God, document it properly and have technical staff available that can explain how it works!

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Subject: Archiving in Notes - HATE IT! HATE IT! HATE IT!

I think the real question or request here is to ask if anyone has found a good source of documentation or information on explaining the differences of the archiving settings to users. I am also getting many complaints and questions from users. They feel they had just figured out R5 processes (somewhat) and now there are so many more options within the archive settings. Has anyone come across an end-user-friendly way of helping to explain or document how they should be configuring archiving to work now? Any help would be appreciated.Thanks

Subject: RE: Archiving in Notes - HATE IT! HATE IT! HATE IT!

and once again there is a help file which explains things. It even shares how to configure archiving rules for mail files. It even walks through how to archive a mail file memo document but not the calendar entries. Hmmm remarkable how all that was found in such a resource which is provided with the server.

Subject: RE: Archiving in Notes - HATE IT! HATE IT! HATE IT!

Unfortunately it works only for users with IQ>100(I mean - reading Notes Help)

Subject: RE: Archiving in Notes - HATE IT! HATE IT! HATE IT!

Looks like I’m not the only one not using the forum etiquette properly.

Anyway, I apologize for my misuse. I was frustrated…

I know about those help files thank you. They lack a section for explaining error messages. For example,try finding what this error means in the help files “there are no archive policies setup for this mailfile.” IBM support was stumped, of course, I finally figured it out.

Main problem is that the ND6 interface has too many options/features now. Our users will definetly be confused.

Subject: RE: Archiving in Notes - HATE IT! HATE IT! HATE IT!

Sonia (or anyone else),I’m having the same problem. I have a policy in place. I just want the users to archive locally. It seems like it can’t do it until I put in ‘enable archiving’ in the archive settings at the workstation.

How did you figure it out and what is your resolution?

TIA,

Carmen

Subject: RE: Archiving in Notes - HATE IT! HATE IT! HATE IT!

I disabled it and we ended up not putting in production. It was never fixed.

Subject: 4 Andrey Dmitriev

Hello Andrey,

I am responding on your older post with the subject “Can’t see the problem”. I am not able to find your email, also I try this way.

In the mentioned post you show an example with authentication by auth login command. Please, could you explain to me how entering the username and password. Both are encrypted in a way probably. I don’t know how to enter them correctly to be authenticated. For example, how to enter the username Milan?

Thanks for your help.

Milan

Subject: RE: 4 Andrey Dmitriev

OK - actually I’ve used Outlook Express 6 to generate a hash:

Create mail account in OE:

use option “My server requires authentication” in Outgoing Mail Server config section

Click on “Settings” button,

enter there user name and internet. password for Domino user (tick “Remember password”)

click OK to save account

Now enable Mail log in Outlook Express in

Tools-Options-Maintainance-Troubleshooting

Then create mail using just created account and send it.

Search your hard drive for smtp.log file

there you may see full session transcript with auth pairs like

SMTP: 19:34:35 [tx] AUTH LOGIN

SMTP: 19:34:35 [rx] 334 VXXXXXXXXXX6

SMTP: 19:34:35 [tx] YXXXXXXXXXXX0=

SMTP: 19:34:35 [rx] 334 UXXXXXXXXXXX6

SMTP: 19:34:35 [tx] aXXXXXXXXXXXXQ==

SMTP: 19:34:35 [rx] 235 Authentication successful

and you may use the same for manual auth with your server via telnet.

Subject: RE: 4 Andrey Dmitriev

Hello Andrey,

it is really a great trick. It works well now.

Thanks a lot for your advice!

Could you send me your email? I look now for any way how to code non US characters in email subjects. May be, you know how to do it as well. I am used to use Java.

Subject: Follow the forum etiquette

There is no legimate compliment. You have not share any information about it being flawed.

There are resources available to learn about the archiving – LDD and the help file. So if you have a compliment then list it otherwise leave the attitude at the door.

If want to yell at IBM then call them and talk with your sales folk. Though IBM is hosting the forum, there are people here who would be (and possibly be) more irked at you and the rudeness this posting.

Subject: Intersting, I archive email all the time, sorry you are having problems.